Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

01/26/2022 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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01:34:18 PM Start
01:34:50 PM HB135
01:44:49 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 1:30 P.M. --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 135 GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 135(RES) Out of Committee
                  HB 135-GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be House  Bill 135,  ""An Act  relating to  geothermal resources;                                                               
relating  to  the  definition   of  'geothermal  resources';  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:35:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS moved to adopt Amendment 1, labeled 32-                                                                  
GH1618\A.1, Bullard, 1/24/22, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "* Sec. 7. AS 38.05.945(a) is amended to read:                                                                      
          (a)  This section establishes the requirements                                                                        
     for notice  given by the  department for  the following                                                                    
     actions:                                                                                                                   
               (1)   classification  or reclassification  of                                                                    
     state land  under AS 38.05.300 and the  closing of land                                                                    
     to mineral leasing or entry under AS 38.05.185;                                                                            
               (2)  zoning of land under applicable law;                                                                        
               (3)  issuance of a                                                                                               
               (A)     preliminary  written   finding  under                                                                    
     AS 38.05.035(e)(5)(A)  regarding  the sale,  lease,  or                                                                    
     disposal of an interest in  state land or resources for                                                                    
     oil   and   gas,   or  for   gas   only,   subject   to                                                                    
     AS 38.05.180(b);                                                                                                           
               (B)  written finding  for the sale, lease, or                                                                    
     disposal  of an  interest  in state  land or  resources                                                                    
     under   AS 38.05.035(e)(6),   except   a   lease   sale                                                                    
     described  in   AS 38.05.035(e)(6)(F)  for   which  the                                                                    
     director  must provide  opportunity for  public comment                                                                    
     under the provisions of that subparagraph;                                                                                 
               (C)  prospecting  license under AS 38.05.181,                                                                
     including the  renewal of  a prospecting  license under                                                                
     AS 38.05.181(c);                                                                                                       
               (4)   a competitive  disposal of  an interest                                                                    
     in state  land or resources after  final decision under                                                                    
     AS 38.05.035(e);                                                                                                           
               (5)       a    preliminary   finding    under                                                                    
     AS 38.05.035(e) concerning sites  for aquatic farms and                                                                    
     related hatcheries;                                                                                                        
               (6)     a   decision  under   AS 38.05.132  -                                                                    
     38.05.134 regarding the sale,  lease, or disposal of an                                                                    
     interest in state land or resources;                                                                                       
               (7)     an  exchange  of  state   land  under                                                                    
     AS 38.50.                                                                                                                  
        * Sec. 8. AS 38.05.945(e) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (e)  Except as provided under (a)(3)(C) of this                                                                   
     section,  notice [NOTICE]  is not  required under  this                                                                
     section for  a permit or other  authorization revocable                                                                    
     by the department."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "secs. 1 - 12"                                                                                                 
          Insert "secs. 1 - 14"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Section 14"                                                                                                   
          Insert "Section 16"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 15"                                                                                                      
          Insert "sec. 17"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK  objected  for  the  purpose  of  considering  an                                                               
amendment  to  Amendment 1  suggested  to  the committee  by  the                                                               
Department of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  moved to adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1 to                                                               
Amendment 1 [which would on  page 1, line 17, delete "prospecting                                                               
license"  and insert  "prospecting permit,  license, or  lease"].                                                               
There being no  objection, Conceptual Amendment 1  to Amendment 1                                                               
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  explained that  Amendment 1,  as amended,                                                               
would  allow  for  greater input  by  impacted  stakeholders  and                                                               
property  owners  in  and  around  an  area  being  explored  for                                                               
geothermal potential.  As currently  written, the bill would only                                                               
require notice  to stakeholders and impacted  properties when the                                                               
project  is  moved  forward  from  exploration  to  a  commercial                                                               
operation.  The  amendment would provide that notice  be given to                                                               
impacted stakeholders  and property [owners] when  an exploration                                                               
license is given  as well, not just when it  moves forward; thus,                                                               
it  would be  a  two-step notification  process.   Representative                                                               
Hopkins  noted that  the language  from DNR  is in  the committee                                                               
packet and that  DNR requested the term  "prospecting license" be                                                               
replaced  with "prospecting  permit, license,  or lease"  because                                                               
"prospecting   license"   is   not  found   anywhere   in   DNR's                                                               
regulations.   He further related  that in its email,  DNR states                                                               
that   the  codification   in  Amendment   1   of  those   notice                                                               
requirements in Alaska statute would  further sanction and assure                                                               
the public's access to the same.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK invited the department to comment on Amendment 1.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HALEY  PAINE, Deputy  Director, Central  Office, Division  of Oil                                                               
and Gas (DO&G), Department of  Natural Resources (DNR), on behalf                                                               
of  the  administration,  stated  that  DNR  does  not  have  any                                                               
objection  to the  amendment  as proposed.    She clarified  that                                                               
under current regulation  for geothermal DNR does  require at the                                                               
disposal phase a  preliminary best interest finding  (BIF).  This                                                               
means that already  at the preliminary BIF and the  final BIF the                                                               
department  is required  by statute  to go  through the  disposal                                                               
public notice process,  so this would just be  reinforced.  Under                                                               
the amendment, DNR  would also list it at issuance,  so DNR would                                                               
then  have  three different  public  notice  periods prior  to  a                                                               
project.   Additionally, there  would be  a fourth  public notice                                                               
period should operations be approved.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:39:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK removed  his  objection to  Amendment  1.   There                                                               
being  no  further  objection,   Amendment  1,  as  amended,  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  moved to report  HB 135, as  amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.  Without  objection, CSHB 135(RES) was                                                               
moved out of the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 135 Amendment Hopkins A.1 1.26.2022.pdf HRES 1/26/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 135